Night Vision 'Always on' option missing.

Could you record the camera doing this and post it? I know the clicking sound you mean - I have many of them including some that point out of windows and I don’t get 100s pf clicks when the camera reverts to black and white mode. I do have the IR lights off on the devices which point out of the window.

It would be interesting to see the issue you are experiencing it could be a hardware issue if it clicks so many times.

Not sure what a recording would prove. It starts at approximately sunrise or around 5:45. It clicks intermittently until approximately 8:00, at which time the light level doesn’t fall below the setting for the sensor to engage the cut filter. What you’re expressing is anecdotal evidence; it doesn’t happen to YOUR cameras in YOUR environment. I have 7 of these cameras and they all do it, some more than others. There are 2 that will literally pass 100 plus clicks in those two hours. Easily.

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Hence why a video of what is happening would be helpful. I have installed and recommended these cameras to a great many people and none have expressed this is their experience.

I have spoken to one who uses three as a type of baby monitor and her and her partner are delighted. Yes like with them all there is the clicking noise but nothing like you are experiencing.

Hence why a video would be useful to understand if it is a device issue or something else.

But I’ll leave you to it now and I guess if you need extended support KamiHome Support would be a great way forward for you

Again, I don’t see the relevance. Are you wanting a recording of my cameras making the clicking noise? That would simply prove I’m not lying. Are you wanting the actual recording, in my house? Yeah, that’s not happening. Suffice it to say I’m tech savvy enough to understand when light levels change just enough to engage the light sensor. And while you might have recommended this to a whole bunch of people who are perfectly happy and none have experienced this, a quick Google search or, heck, even a search on these very forums will provide you with plenty of people who HAVE experienced this issue and are NOT perfectly happy with their experience.

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I also need to be able to manually force IR mode. Auto mode alone is useless without a manual override.

The application is industrial monitoring of a laser tool which emits in the visible spectrum. When the camera is in visible mode, it floods with laser flashes and is useless. It works well for this application in IR mode. But there’s no way to keep it in IR mode: it auto switches to visible mode as soon as we turn on the lights.

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@fredric100 Can you tell me what model of camera you are using? I have some ideas on how to get you where you need to be but camera model would be a good start and I can make my recommendation to force IR on your camera.

And, wild! Thats a crazy application of the camera. I would be very interested in learning more about how you are using our cameras. Very, very interesting use case.

Thanks for your reply,

I have tested Yi Camera 3’s and am just starting tests with Yi Dome U Camera Pros. I’d appreciate your suggestions for forcing IR.

Here’s a link to one test of Camera 3’s: https://www.facebook.com/100003796157846/videos/4605523959534160/

The desktop laser market is evolving and growing rapidly. Remote video monitoring has the potential to become an excellent safety tool in this segment.

Hi guys
Still no Night Vision Always On option or some workaround?

Thanks for sharing. I’m still working on a fix for you. Wanted to send an update. We have some things we are testing tomorrow and I will know for sure. If not on Yi Cam 3 / Dome U potentially another model we may be able to send you to test. I’ll keep you posted.

Thanks, I appreciate the update, and look forward to more info as available.

I will test anything which could be a good solution for this application. The laser emits at 450nm, and it looks like the IR noise generated when cutting most materials with the 5W laser is low, and is handled well by the cameras.

The laser vendor, Longer3D, is one of the largest 3D printer manufacturers in China, and has just launched their desktop laser product. Their engineering and marketing teams are doing a good job of monitoring the facebook group into which I’m posting test results. https://www.longer3d.com/pages/longer

Hi @Steven_Kami
Sorry for duplication
As I see there is no option in YI Home app to force turn on night vision mode (like it is in MI Home app)
Is there a plan to add that option on the app?
I use YI 1080p Home Camera AI+
Thanks

Hey @mush @fredric100 After some thorough research, we do not have a way to force IR in the app OR a manual way to force IR on the camera itself. I am going to check with our firmware and app teams to see if its possible for a specific build to address this. I will be in touch. If there are any other requirements let me know and I can give the best info to our team on the use case and what we are solving. Many thanks for your patience. Apologies that I don’t have a better answer at this time.

Thanks for the update, please keep me posted. I might experiment with placing a filter over the camera lens which filters out visible light, if I can find an inexpensive one. Perhaps even a polarizing filter would kick the camera into IR mode. I guess I’d appreciate knowing, specifically, what conditions trigger IR mode for the current firmware, which might help steer me towards the right filter.

Could you please ask the engineers:

  1. Will this IR Pass filter kick the camera into IR mode (Camera 3, Dome U Camera Pro)?
  2. Do the cameras monitor within the IR spectrum passed by this filter (808-1064 nm)?
  3. If not, can they suggest another inexpensive filter?

IR Pass Filter

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I will be sure to ask the engineers and have an answer for you at the beginning of next week.

Also, i have been messing with our Kami Babies and there might be a way to force IR so if I can figure it on 1 maybe we can find steps for other models.

either way, i’ll get you a response on your inquiry early next week on filters

Thanks, I look forward to the data from the engineers. I ordered that laser IR pass filter, it will arrive Jan 12 and I’ll gladly share results.

I bet the filter approach will work. There are also lots of inexpensive IR pass filters available for photography (example attached). It would save me experimenting time if engineers could point me to specific filter I could purchase somewhere.

LEE Filters 3x3" Infra Red #87 Infrared Polyester Filter

Very interesting. Keep us posted on how it goes :slight_smile:

Any update on the always on feature for the IR light?

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Can we please have an update on this?

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Two years later, is there any fix for this? Has anyone on the engineering team or coding team spoken with the team from the original Yi cameras to find out how they managed to implement this option? It was the same tech. The originals clicked just like these, but with the option in the screen shot I included in the OP, you could disable it.

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